General thoughts: Really liked the program and people, and they do accept a high proportion of OOS (albeit usually off the March waitlist). Students all seemed happy as far as I met. Apparently, there are next to no traditional lectures. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Please post only on-topic premed posts or questions. It’s hard to beat a top-ranked program and all of the opportunities that come with that, and the environment also seemed friendly. Pre-clinical only lasts 1.5 years, and you have the option to take Step 1 immediately after or sometime during your clerkship. Metrohealth/Cleveland Clinic/University Hospitals/VA hospital affiliations are pretty legit. LeBron is quite literally one of the greatest players to ever grace the game. In Michigan, the average tuition in 2018 was $6,585. 14 comments. We spent most of the day in one of the research buildings and only spent about 5 minutes in the actual medical education building, and the day was basically a quick talk by admissions, lunch with two faculty and two students, a short tour, and the interview. Think The Fingers or Rambo! They used to be ranked relatively lower just 10 years ago (not in top 10, top 5) which I don't think most people realize. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child), Seems like the Yale System creates a really chill/collaborative vibe, New Haven has a great cost of living for the price. Where did you hear the free clinic is hard to get into? The weather IF you don't like cold. Given the Blacksburg/Roanoke area, though, there are many higher SES patients, as well. Interviewer basically said they only change their curriculum when the accrediting agency says to. [–]kitkat1313ADMITTED 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I've heard from many people who actually go to UCSD med not involved with the interview day that the culture is not friendly, [–]KingofMangoesMS2 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children), [–]distalandconvolutedADMITTED-MD 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (6 children). General thoughts: Overall, my interview day at UNMC made me want to go there so much more. Nice facilities. The school has a big focus on rural health so some of the rotations occur at rural sites around Oregon. Why try food you've never had? -Noticeably non-gunnerish, collaborative vibe and very holistic admissions, Cons: Plenty of research opportunities are available. It would be hard to see myself living in Detroit for 4 years. save. As a whole, this didn't bother me but I could see someone not feeling too comfortable with this. Giant hospital system centered in Morgantown with tons of opportunities for basic or clinical research (rural clinical stipends), clinical experience, and great variety of pathologies. [–]Alpha-BromegaADMITTED-MD 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). They are developing a strong sense of commitment to their community in the South Side. Students mentioned that they often took the train to the main campus in Morningside Heights on weekends for food and coffee shops - that seemed kind of annoying to me, Oh man I'm sorry but Bard Hall was a shit show, although students said living in the towers after first year was actually pretty nice. Thinking of moving to Michigan - Looking for Pros and Cons . It's easier to trust companies that have been just about longer, simply because their reputation is likely to be known. 1. True P/F grading during pre-clinical years, Students get an Ipad that is loaded with PDFs of all text books. Pros and cons of Bitcoin reddit is on track to be one of the best activity assets of 2020 as the chart on a lower floor shows. Lectures recorded, smaller clinical groups, nice anatomy lab space. Didn't push the second round back a week despite ample requests from students. Students were really cool, seemed like they were close to each other as well, They preach diversity, but it doesn't seem like they practice it (based solely on MSAR and what I saw during the two days I was there). Everyone gets "sorted" into a "house" potter style at the beginning of the year, and students get to meet and interact with upper classmen and other students in their house a lot (college cup). If you are an outdoors person, this state will not disappoint. Low cost of living, less stress, people are mostly friendly. Community service oriented school which appealed to me. New level 1 trauma center and ED coming in 2018 (I believe first adult level 1 trauma center in the South Side) - would definitely be a great place to see some gnarly stuff and get hands on experience with problems in urban health. Many students said being on the wards helped with their Step studying due to experiential learning. State of the art facilities. Nice campus. -Chicago is cold and can be violent in some areas so that may be a con for you, but I already live there and think the pros of Chicago far outweigh the cons. [–]premedthrowaway421MS3 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children), Mayo Clinic School of Medicine, Rochester, [–]bobbyd727ADMITTED-MD 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child). Ronald Reagan (the main academic hospital) is sick, huge quaternary care center. General thoughts: I really liked this place. School recognizes it may not have the most patient population and encourages away rotations. Though I imagine this isn't a pro for everyone. Faculty are very receptive to students and willing to help. I'm from the west coast and I'm thinking about moving to the state in the far future. They have special programs for tech, rural medicine, urban medicine, etc with faculty support and specific seminars. I wonder how that affects residency applications; I can imagine it is difficult to plan on more competitive specialties without knowing your score and schedule rotations/sub-Is accordingly with enough time to apply. [–]rockystartADMITTED 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child). There are also tracks that you need to pick for a project over your time there, but it seems pretty flexible and lowkey. Don't hesitate to call/email them about anything. I have several friends who have gone there from both in and out of state and they all say that if they had to do it over again, they would still go to UNMC. There is a spirituality office of sorts that organizes service projects for the underserved. Many get funding, some extend to multiple years, seems to be great experience and train physician-scientist Jrs. anki decks). best interview day experience: warm staff with a well planned day. working with an OB/GYN while learning about reproduction in PBL). I had a very meh experience with Hofstra so this changes my view to a slightly more positive point. Yep, was recognized from a post I made (it wasn't anything bad). Any form of racism, sexism, homophobia, or general unnecessary extremely offensive behavior will not be tolerated. Frigid in winters, -I believe it's 2 years preclinical so may be a neg to some. Honestly everyone talked about how research focused Stanford was but WOW, it's basically like a larger version of the Cleveland Clinic program except you have to pay money and it's in Cali. Also the school was beautiful but a lot of driving and not sure how much I'd love long island, [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children), [–]Cooks_with_tosterMS1 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children). Everyone was super friendly and I got pulled in as a bystander to a birthday celebration which was cool. Also they’re investing a ton into a new building, so if research is your jam then it’s a great opportunity given the student-to-research faculty ratio. Standard double-pass curriculum. On-campus gym with good equipment, racquetball courts, and large pool. Also local “away” rotations at UPenn/Temple/Drexel/etc. Bathrooms are shared between two units and each floor has a communal kitchen. -Curriculum is new so still working out some kinks I couldn't tell you which is better; from the students I've talked to it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. This would be a no-brainer for me but given the high cost of things, I'm considering my options. [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (0 children). School: University of Illinois at Chicago. [–]KingofInfiniteGraceADMITTED-MD 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (0 children), -Focus on student wellness; laid-back student body, -Admin responsive to student concerns and feedback, -Half of faculty are from Yale and Uconn; they left to come to school with teaching focus as opposed to research focus; focus is thus on students not research, -Interview day is more personal than most with a group session where dean of admissions talks about and engages with each applicant; also small interview group of ~10, -P/F preclinical; Step 1 average supposedly above average (though some say only slightly), -Seems like they try to match you with interviewers with common interest/background though I can't say this for sure, -There are 2 yr scholarships that can be applied for with up to half tuition off, -Since emphasis is on teaching, research is not a priority (I believe there is no NIH funding but not sure); capstone project does exist though and Yale is nearby so opportunities are there if one wants to do research, -New school with only one graduated class, -Primary care focused school though many did match in specialties in first match, -have a longitudinal program called MeSH (medical student home) where students are linked with a PCP practice where they go once a week, -My interview had only one traditional (still in undergrad) student so maybe they like people who do gap years but n =1, [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children), Holy shit what a research WONDERLANd all the facilities are beautiful and funding is endless here. I believe they are actually definitely dropping it for class of 2022 and onwards. It is a very different lifestyle than what you will find along the East or West Coast. Their health learning building is new and shiny, lots of natural lighting (which has always helped me study), Small class size=low chance of getting in, New school, so there’s a slight risk that things may not pan out, Very specific mission, which is public health oriented, so may not be a good fit for someone who has no interest in public health, Overall: Top choice for sure. Close. [–]KingofInfiniteGraceADMITTED-MD 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (0 children), -Connected to hospital; level 1 trauma center so opportunities for good training, -As per students, class is cohesive and does events together like skiing trips; students were friendly, -Upstate NY is good for outdoorsy activities, -Their MMI and interview day was very laidback, -Albany is a small city with not much to do, -Preclinical grading is not P/F (I think Excellent/Good/Marginal/Unsatisfactory), -Place a lot of ppl on UC (WL) list initially. This may be a con for some people but I am very much a self-learner and group discussion helps solidify information, so I think this is a good fit for me. Also being newer means they’re still malleable and willing to listen to student feedback. Love the emphasis on research which is very important if I want to pursue a competitive specialty. You are walking up hill everywhere you go. Food for the interview day was mediocre, and you’d be in trouble if you didn’t like pasta or cheese. They also have subsidized couples housing which is priced at half of market rate. People shouldn't under estimate the lack of sun for a large swath of the year. Close to the capitol if you're interested in public policy work. All lectures are recorded, and anatomy is done longitudinally. : Pros: Cons: General … It sounds like it’s less military than the actual military, but still too military for me. Close • Posted by just now. There are 10 million people here, there is every type imaginable from drag queens to people plotting to kidnap politicians. They take IM and Surgery together (alternating every 3 weeks) for 24? There are no undergrad students associated with the school, so you don't have to compete for research positions. Seriously, I interviewed at multiple top programs (top 20/10) and none were as impressive as Mayo's (Penn came close), Selectives in the curriculum actually seem to offer a ton of flexibility to pursue your interests even if they aren't totally within medicine (e.g., public policy), You receive training at the best hospital in the world (seriously, this alone is unbelievable), Rochester isn't the most exciting city. General Thoughts: I really like the school. The arboretum is really nice and (ostensibly) walking distance from the campus. People don’t like the fact that it’s in New Haven, but the medical school area didn’t seem dangerous at all. MSTP students are spread across the whole city, dont know each other outside of their friend groups. The administration was very attentive and not only knew all of the applicants by name but also specific details about our applications and went out of their way to make us comfortable (+1 for chocolate chip cookies offered during the down time in between afternoon interviews.) But who get away from it not Convince leaves, can instead to the well-meaning Customer experiences put, speaking for themselves. #3 hasn't just been limited to sports faculty though, there have been professors and TAs in trouble in the past 5 years too (not to mention MSU's handling of student-student sexual assault). Syracuse and Binghamton campuses offer different things, but I talked to people who did each and they seemed happy with their decisions. Everything in the pre-clinical years is pretty much PBL-based. Night before food spread was amazing, including snack-sized chicken and waffles. Most students mention that they have a car or has a roommate that has one. No, not at all! Match list is amazing especially if you wanna stay in socal, Students can be really involved in free clinic diverse patient population with lots of medical Spanish work possible. I will say there are a ton of hidden gems to find along your journey here - for instance who knew some of the best Mexican food in the state could be found on an island in the UP but only during summer? Access to the faculty of the Cleveland Clinic (#2 hospital in the country), Still get your degree from CWRU. It's a good community and many of the students/faculty end up staying there for years. The buying power from this is visible in the facilities and services available to students. Also moving around is almost guaranteed. BU showed me that they care about the public and anyone who needs medical care. Overall I really liked the city, and it’s in the research triangle with Chapel Hill and Raleigh, so there are likely jobs for your partner. This is awesome because you get earlier clinical exposure, but it looks like it allows you to plan your electives better if you're gunning for the top program/specialty. First of all, exams are given online (unproctored, 48-hour window, honor system), which is awesome. The med students seemed really over tired when I was there probably due to the course they were involved in. If you are nontraditional or in a significant relationship, you can make Scranton what you like. Where's your double blacks?!?!!? I really like Burlington/Vermont/UVM's campus though and you'll be an easy 1 hour drive away from Montreal which I've come to love over the past 4 years. Born in Detroit, still have a lot of family in that area. Definitely carries over into an artsy vibe amongst the students - lots of random interests. Everyone is there to serve (albeit in different ways) and that sense of service really seems to create a collaborative and non-competitive group, Because they are basically paid to go to med school, they have a GREAT quality of life. Lectures are recorded first two years. Night before had dinner at a local restaurant, and there are lots of local craft brews. [–]Ironspy99MEDICAL STUDENT 52 points53 points54 points 3 years ago* (2 children), They gave everyone a dope hat at the end of interview day, Pre-clinical curriculum is shifting from h/p/f to p/f next year, which has always been the main knock against them, Philly (or at least the part of the city where Penn is) is amazingly nice, Their global health program is incredible, They're one of the few schools that give out merit-based scholarships - for all the hype Columbia's been getting about "ending student debt" recently, everyone seems to have forgotten that Penn gives out 30 (!) Small city, lowish COL, beautiful valley in the Blue Ridge Mountains. (Thesis is also required for students. New hybrid/PBL curriculum seems to prepare students better for clinical years, and it’s 21mos. The other people you see outside in the winter are friendlier cause they are locals and know how to prepare for winter. Wide range of STEP 1 scores (from borderline passing to 260+). Interviewed here in September. Upstate weather means cold and snow for much of the year, which may exacerbate SAD. it was kind of annoying as an OOS applicant to hear that they were interviewing more OOS students for fewer OOS spots (or something to that effect) this year. Anatomy lab up high was a refreshing change from the creepy basement ones. Charleston or Eastern campuses for third/fourth year are options, and you can rotate to any of them, although Eastern uses longitudinal/integrated. Just be prepared for the cold weather to stick around for a long time and to get some bean boots/parka. Actually we could use more population in Michigan were at 10 million and we gain like 1,000 residents a year. I just wish I’d get that phone call 😕, Strong clinical training with a diverse patient population, Student housing is apartment-style and looked super livable -- it is NOT the traditional dorms that you see when touring other NYC schools like Columbia and Cornell, It sounds like the school puts an emphasis on having a social life, and they time the tests so that students get every other weekend off to enjoy NYC, NYU is really thinking about diversity and inclusion in interesting ways (i.e. There seems to be a culture of driving/parking, which means that there is a rush hour. To me thats a good thing not sure about you. School: University of Maryland, School of Medicine, Great Shock Trauma Center if you're interested in Emergency Medicine. True P/F curriculum during pre-clinical years, Mount Sinai has hospitals in all 5 boroughs, so there are a lot of options for rotations. Just so you know, deferring enrollment is better than failing your first year of medical school. Each system you learn is paired up with real world clinical exp (e.g. Also which part of Michigan should I consider? I'm sure its a great school I just can't be in the car in traffic that much. Oh my god, I had the same reaction to the hat. Located in Center City Philly, which has a reasonable COL (IMO coming from Boston) and amazing restaurants (as well as a Taco Bell basically on campus). Diverse patient population, given that Connecticut is one of the wealthiest states but New Haven has a huge income gap. Also admit a lot of Cali ppl. No, [–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]notFDAapprovedADMITTED-MD 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (0 children), Pros: students seemed super laid back, top 20, cool "tracks" in their curriculum, Cons: I noticed the gunner types at my interview day too, there was a lot of downtime at my interview, [–]anonymedschrevADMITTED-MD 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child), amazing, kind students who spoke highly of the administration's support of them (specifically post-Hurricane Harvey) and also seemed to bond a lot between the class years, Texas Medical Center, holy crap. Building a new hospital, should improve clinical experience, They talked for way too long during the info sessions, Literally told to not come here if you didn't want to be an academic leader in medicine, INTENSE, lots of imposter syndrome amongst students. 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